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22/11/2006
If Only Thierry Henry was English: A Response to Myles Palmer and the “Arsenal News Review”
I don’t know why Myles Palmer continues claiming to be an Arsenal supporter. He obviously is not.
Palmer’s constant denigration of Thierry Henry while singing the praises of Sir Alex Ferguson, Wayne Rooney, and Manchester United is getting ridiculous.
Palmer’s articles this year have become more and more absurd by the week. His Nov 21 article, “If Theo Walcott was 19 he could be Anelka with a Smile” took the cake, however. After several lines of Palmer complaining that Henry lacks both leadership and work ethic, an argument that is getting very tiring, Palmer went on to make this audacious statement:
“It’s folly to build a team round one player, especially a moody poseur like Thierry Henry. If he is not scoring, who will give you goals?
Myself, I prefer Wayne Rooney.
And I also prefer Kevin Doyle of Reading, who was playing for Cork City 16 months ago. Doyle is grateful to get a game and says, ‘I know I stand a chance of playing every week if I do what’s required.’”
Kevin Doyle? Is he serious? Is he talking about the same Kevin Doyle I see on highlight strips scoring scrappy rebound goals inside the six-yard box? The same Kevin Doyle who did absolutely nothing against us when we thrashed Reading 4-0 at the Madejski? Why? Because he doesn’t take a game for granted? Because he works hard? Never mind Palmer’s newfound ritual of praising Wayne Rooney (you’d think the Messiah had come in red and black) at every chance he gets, but seriously…Kevin Doyle? He could have said he prefers Doyle’s attitude, and that might have made perfect sense—but no, Myles Palmer claims to prefer Kevin Doyle as a player over Thierry Henry.
So what does Palmer have against Henry? Wayne Rooney goes through rough stretches like what Henry is going through now (remember the beginning of the season), but when Rooney couldn’t buy a goal and Henry was scoring at the beginning of the season Palmer was quick to take Rooney’s side, said that he would soon come out of his funk and score while he is quick to do the opposite to Henry. Why would Palmer write this? Keep in mind this was after Henry was inspiring against Newcastle. His free kick was one of the best of the year, and it earned us a draw with Newcastle. Had it not been for a couple bad deflections and one especially great save by Shay Given, Henry could have won us the game. He does not deserve Palmer’s constant criticism.
During the end of last year, as Thierry carried Arsenal through the Champions League and Premiership, Palmer was not so harsh. Henry put the team on his shoulders at Real Madrid. Henry picked the team up and earned a draw against Tottenham. Henry brought us into fourth place during Highbury’s final match. Palmer did not question work ethic or call him “moody.” His shift away from Arsenal and Henry to Manchester United and Wayne Rooney is unexplainable. He hides behind journalistic integrity, saying he is “a journalist who didn't give a toss about Arsenal until one Saturday in August 1986 when Charlie Nicholas scored a goal to beat Manchester United. A slim, dark-haired, immaculately groomed Glasgegian hard man came into the press room and gave us a two-minute pep talk,” but what kind of journalist makes conclusions that Thierry is second fiddle to the likes of Kevin Doyle and that Arsenal are “the R.E.M. of football while Man U are the Rolling Stones” without really saying why?
Palmer’s treatment of Henry, our captain, is tremendously unjust. He claims to support the Gunners but tries to tear both the team and its fans apart by constantly questioning Henry’s leadership. The game at Hamburg was a good example of how Henry contributes without scoring and why he is regarded so much higher than the likes of Kevin Doyle. Hamburg constantly was worried about Henry first, Henry second, and Henry third. The Van Persie goal’s through-ball only opened up because Henry had two defenders marking him. Baptista’s header only opened up because Henry’s marker was drawn away from the cross. Palmer saw a completely different player, however. Palmer saw Henry as a “paper tiger.”
Palmer claimed: “He was shrugged off the ball and several times threw himself down in the box and he picked up a silly booking. He's a girl in a man's game and it's no bad thing that he misses the Porto game after three yellow cards. If Arsenal win without him in Porto his 100K a week will look like a waste of money.”
I don’t know what game he was watching or what player he thinks he is talking about. Opposing defenses key on Henry more than any player and this opens up defenses for the rest of the team to capitalize on. This is exactly what happened against Hamburg. That “girl in a man’s game” has led us before; why does Palmer think he cannot lead us again?
Palmer is simply a patriot first, a journalist second and an Arsenal fan third. Therefore, because Arsenal has lost much of its English contingent, Palmer is biased against Arsenal and against Henry most of all. It pains him to see a Frenchman with the captain’s armband of his boyhood English team. Everyone knows that all strikers go through slow stages but Palmer is quick to attack Henry instead of giving him time to heat up again—to say he won’t score more goals is ridiculous.
And why does Palmer think Manchester United is so much better than us after we won Old Trafford? How could “R.E.M.” have out-rocked the “Rolling Stones,” as Palmer put it in his dumbest article this year. The answer is Pro-England bias, not legitimate journalism, and this upsets me. I want the old Myles Palmer back. I want to read cutting-edge, well-thought out articles that provided interesting analysis and introduced intriguing and unfamiliar ways to look at certain situations. If I wanted to read a Manchester United fan’s opinion on everything that is wrong with Arsenal I would. Hell, Palmer would probably claim that the only reason we did win at Old Trafford is because Henry wasn’t playing. It will be interesting to see what he says when we progress through the Champions League and eventually catch up to his precious Red Devils in the Premiership. What will he say about our “poseur” captain then?
By Joel Martin
14:04 Permalink | Comments (60) | Email this | Tags: Arsenal, Soccer, Football
Comments
Yeah, I like Myles but I think he's getting more and more anti Henry. You're article sums up how I feel about him at the moment. I don't mean to be insulting but Myles is disappearing up his own arse. I'm not sure he is, or ever was, a real Gooner,( and I don't think he claims to be.)
As for Henry, he suffers from the standards he has set. A genuis in an Arsenal shirt. Rooney is neither.
Posted by: The Beast | 22/11/2006
In fairness to Palmer, he often points out that he isn't a Gooner.
He's still a total arse though.
Posted by: Liam Brady (not that one) | 22/11/2006
Well said. I find it increasingly frustrating that this man's view point remains unchallenged.
The only point I take issue with, is Palmer's status as a journalist. I've read his work - it's consistently poor. His book on Wenger falls some way short of mediocre. Wenger's view of Palmer is notable by its absence. The man doesn't even register - a nobody trying to make money through an association that doesn't exist.
Posted by: Ryan Harvey | 22/11/2006
Big Up to our Man Joel, Nuff Respect.
The article rocks.
Thanks
Posted by: Junior | 22/11/2006
Its true im a manure man. What you gunna do about it boi?
Posted by: Myles Palmer | 22/11/2006
If you dont like Myles' site or dont want to know his opinion then why bother reading it????
Posted by: Henryetta Marsbar | 22/11/2006
very well written, Joel - there are a lot of people out there who share your sentiment, myself included...
Henry hasn't had his best season as he himself has owned up to but even a few moments of his genius can turn a game...
Palmer makes such sweeping general statements that I enjoy reading them as they make me laugh out loud - he should get a job with The Sun
Posted by: Si | 22/11/2006
cmon...Palmer wasnt all wrong. Henry has turned into a surly egotistical fvcker
Posted by: Sayitasitis | 22/11/2006
Your rant is equally as OTT as many of Palmer' comments. I quite like reading Palmer's comments, but I must admit I'm getting fed up with his attitude - and the way he cannot resist bigging himself up every time he gets a prediction right - I mean it's not actually rocket science to come to the conclusion that Arsenal would be one of the worst teams in Germany by 2 or 3 goals, at home!
The question you have to ask is, if he doesn't support Arsenal (as he claims) then why does he write about them virtually every single day, get frustrated by them, and get frustrated with Henry - sounds like a supporter to me! Maybe he's a closet homogooner.
One reason could be that Palmer has a book to sell; no need for me to tell you what it's called as every month Palmer finds a way to whore it all over again through his columns. If he didn't write that book, I doubt ANR would even exist.
Still, I also agree with a lot of what he writes, but sometimes his arrogance runs away with him. One things for sure, it's a far more entertaining read than trash like Arseblog - who seems to spend every day telling us how he got pissed last night, as if anyone is remotely interested, alongside foul mouthed rants and linking stories to News Now. And he's still one of the better ones, have you seen Vital Arsenal? Hilarious that one.
Posted by: James | 22/11/2006
Myles Palmer is a twat. He has all these grand predictions that mostly are proved wrong. I refuse to read him. Ian grant is goodthough simply because he's a actually Gooner. Arseblog however is the greatest blog on the web and the arsecast is incredibly fun and entertaining.
Posted by: Puta madre | 22/11/2006
The perils of the internet. Unfortunately it gives a voice to idiots. And yes, I sympathise with this author, because it can hurt to know that other idiots are influenced by the idiotic opinion of one idiot. Who said censorship was bad?
Posted by: Donjohnni | 22/11/2006
Im with you joel, i used to love myles's articles but the last thing we want is to read up on how to beat arsenal or how shit we are WEEK AFTER WEEK - the old myles articles were MUCH MUCH better, hes lost alot of respect this season, i hope he turns it around. - On top of that doesnt the sun newspaper do that enough (slating arsenals faults) when were on a bad run?
Posted by: Keza | 22/11/2006
I like how your website has a link to ANR - one of only 3 chosen. You must really love it.
Posted by: vic | 22/11/2006
Myles is a middle class cunt like the majority of arsenal's new fans. Arseblog is the best arsenal blog on the net .Funny,irreverant and written from the heart
Posted by: arseblogger | 22/11/2006
Palmer is a slavering halfwit.
Posted by: keeeown | 22/11/2006
Fantastic reply Joel Martin. I couldn't agree with you more. I seriously think that you have demonstrated enough in your article to take over Myles to write for this website..though I doubt the delusioned Mr Palmer will allow that.. really well said...and thanks for writing this.
Posted by: Mike | 22/11/2006
I don;t want to comment on this article. But wanna comment on ur article about Lauren. He is an amazing player. I rate him second only to Martin Keown of all time greats. He is the tough man in the Squad who plays with his heart.. He is one of those Arsenal fans who play for Arsenal.
Posted by: Ben | 22/11/2006
I totally agree with the article. Palmer is an idiot, he holds himself in some great esteem and thinks he is some kind of genius however most of his predictions are wrong and he's also a political fanatic.
Posted by: Ben (another Ben) | 22/11/2006
Just like to add I have heared Palmer on the radio and he sounds creepy, very odd fellow with a worrying hatred of Henry, despite Henry being the greatest player in the history of the club.
Posted by: Ben (another Ben) | 22/11/2006
While Palmer's haymaker assertions and conclusions occasionally hit the target with easy-reading success, he talks out of his arse most of the time.
He feels like he has to go to extremes to have his views heard when if he just tapered back the extremity his insights would be infinitely more creditable.
He has a big ego and probably loves the fact your writing about him.
Must admit I do agree with his negative comments right after a poor arsenal performance, but that's due to sheer frustration.
Posted by: paul | 22/11/2006
I agree that Myles has lost it, which is more than could be said for Arseblog who unfortunately never had it, foul mouthed, perpetually hungover, Arseblog is a disgrace to himself and the club.
Wenger if he can be bothered to look, must view there ill informed rantings, with contempt, disgust and a certain amount pf perplexed amusement
Posted by: dandan | 22/11/2006
Myles is a middle class cunt like the majority of arsenal's new fans. Arseblog is the best arsenal blog on the net .Funny,irreverant and written from the heart
I would just like to point out that was not written by me. Good article though - to say you prefer Kevin Doyle to Thierry Henry is quite mad.
Posted by: arseblogger | 22/11/2006
I totally agree with your Joel. His anti Henry tirade have become pathetic, I can only assume Henry has given him an almighty snub and he is hell bent on revenge. Maybe he tried to write an Henry book and got no joy from our Thierry.
Like most of you here, I question his Gooner credentials. IMHO, he is not a Gooner. If Arsene did not grant him the audience for his book, he will not be the fake Arsenal supporter he claims to be today.
The Arseblog website are right about him.
Posted by: AGooner | 22/11/2006
Yeah, Arseblog must be fucking stupid to move from Spain to Ireland.
He "thinks" he's a man of the people, but I like to imagine that 99.99% of the public are a little more sophisticated and don't destroy their liver every night and then boast about it on a web blog the next day under the assumption that people find it amusing. Let's face it, he's a cretin.
Posted by: James | 22/11/2006
The most bizarre aspect about Palmer's Nov 21 article is that he claims he apparently saw all of our current problems coming as far back as 5 years ago. So in 2001 - before we claimed our second double - before we won the title in a record unbeaten season - before we went 49 games unbeaten Myles Palmer knew we were heading for trouble. Tells you all you need to know about him doesn't it.
Posted by: Peter | 22/11/2006
Agreed Paul. That about sums it up. BTW Arseblog of all the blogs Ive read are the most realistic and are a laugh, but I wish these blogs would stop with their advertising. There is some real shite out there mind you.
Posted by: Akuma | 22/11/2006
Totally agree with article, myles has slowly turned into a clown. find that arseblog is unnecessarily foul-mouthed but find it's the first site I go onto every day!
Posted by: karl | 22/11/2006
Thank you Joel.Within the past month miss myles has called Henry a ballerina,a girl in a man's game,moody poseur , a paper tiger just to mention a few.What would make somebody so disrespectful to one of the best players in the universe.Miss palmer lacks class and its constant attack on Henry is sickening.Fuck palmer!
Posted by: notmylespalmer | 22/11/2006
I used to read Palmer's comments for the last four years,and i was really astonished when he wrote that he's not an Arsenal fan,he is just a football analyst.
so why the*** he has a website domain called arsenalnewsreview????
Palmer has changed alot this year, and it will not be strange thing if we saw him writing in one of Chelsea blogs!!!
Come on he used to write a wonderful comments,he used to be ar Arsenal fan,
I stopped reading his comments anymore after reading the article which he mentioned that he is not an Arsenal fan!!!
Please Henry go back to your form just to beat this b****
Posted by: Wkgunner | 22/11/2006
"He "thinks" he's a man of the people,"
It's good that you know what I think.
Can you guess what I'm thinking now?
"Arseblog is a disgrace to himself and the club."
And your mum.
Posted by: arseblogger | 22/11/2006
im sorry but ARSEBLOG is class. if u find it that disgusting then that makes u exactly the middle class twat that you claim myles palmer is.
Posted by: adam basildon | 22/11/2006
I stopped reading Miles (ARN) for 6 mths Now
I ave taken him off my links
Arsenal World - Prompt & Up to date in 6 hours - Great Site!!!
Arsenal Mania - Slow to up date but a fans site
Arsenal.co.uk - Arsenal Offical Site
Previous Sites:
Arseweb - gives whole view Mens, ladies, & Boys
--- Although out of date by a few days
Old Favorite
Arsenal Land - ??
Posted by: Roger | 22/11/2006
palmers problem with Henry though is that he sees a gap between henry's perception of himself and the reality. Before the champions league final, Henry was saying that he was a streetfighter, which is an insane thing for him to say. whatever he is, he's not a streetfighter.
Palmers point was that Henry was a brilliant player, but a bit of a primadonna ballerina, as he kind of displayed after the game, going around whinging at ronaldinho and eto'o, basically talking himself out of a move to barcelona. and that is fine, as long as you accept what he is and use him appropriately.
Henry is undoubtedly a brilliant player, but he is not captain material. He is no tony adams, someone who is always up for the battle. He thinks that someone like kolo toure should be captain. would that be so bad? Henry looks like he just isn't as up for it this season as before.
as for Henry himself, for a player of his ability, his form this season has been erratic, and he looks like he is still kind of sulking. But the way that arsenal are currently set up makes things harder for him. four years ago he had bergkamp sliding the ball through for him, with a left winger pires and a right winger ljungberg bursting through on either side scoring 10-20 goals a season, with vieira running from deep. Arsenal had a very clear structure that the players switched around within, and every player could share in the goals.
The last two seasons, henry is up front, there is no real shape to the midfield, so you wind up seeing a lot of lovely passing, but none of the penetration of 2001-2. Hleb isn't going to score 8 goals in the last ten games of the season like ljungberg. Rosicky isn't going to score nearly 20 league goals a season like pires, and it sometimes look like Henry is starting to lose heart. back when arsenal were winning titles, the team was built to suit henry, now it seems to be depending on him entirely.
To make him captain on top of that seems crazy.
maybe Palmer is taking henry's skill for granted, but he is just pointing out that he doesn't look like he is pumping 100% into every game, and that his attitude doesn't seem which is not something that you Something that Rooney always seems to do even if it isn't working out for him. it's also what kevin doyle does. He is a player who is a perpetual motion machine. He is not as skilful as thierry henry, but has scored as many league goals through continuously trying.
I also don't think that it has anything whatsoever to do with henry not being english. Palmer has described Rooney as basically being Irish (three of his grand parents are Irish, and his other grandparent's parents are both Irish) rather than english because he is so unlike any other english player ever. He really isn't much of little englander.
Posted by: Greenmile | 22/11/2006
Bollocks to that greenmile, mate, Palmer is a joke, he has a site called "ArsenalNewsReview" says he's not an Arsenal fan, but goes to games and has a season ticket, claims he can see into the future, compares Arsenal to R.E.M, says Henry is a paper tiger, need I go on?
This man has 0 creditablity left. And I throughly do NOT take him serious.
Posted by: Akuma | 22/11/2006
well i used to like wat he wrote until sometime ago .. he's loosing it .. but there are some things i think he's not too wrong about ..
IMO Toure should be the captain .. just as he leads by example .. the aggression ... I am not saying Henry is not committed or something .. but its just that he's not 100% all the time ... most of the game he's probably around 60-65 % ... He's certainly not as aggressive as we need him to be ala ricky ponting.. I still remember seeing him chat around with Reo-coker and joke bout stuff right before the game .. as opposed, viera would never do that .. you could have looked at neville before we played em mancs .. its not just a game .. its as if you go out to wage a war everytime u set your foot on the greens .. you might go on tat i aint a gooner or shite .. but hey goin to every game doesnt make u a goonr .. been watchin arsenal since age 10 .. and followin em ever since .. is enuf for me to think of myself as a gooner ..
but i really dunno wy the fook myles just keeps on ranting bout rooney .. england have been shite since the last few games .. they wer lucky that holland din't skin em .. they missed persie tho .. he's been on fire for em on the right ..
so to conclude .. read if u want to .. else just let him wank bout what he thinks .. he doesnt necessarily think right all the time .. sometimes tho .. he does ..
Posted by: dumbass | 22/11/2006
First of all Myles Palmer is not an Arsenal supporter. He has stated this many, many times. He's a journalist who follows Arsenal - for many reasons. But what he fails to realise that is that in some games he is asked to play in a very CENTRAL position. Clearly not his best position as Henry likes to drift wide and likes to run with the ball. He seldom gets this chance playing in a central position.
Posted by: andrew | 22/11/2006
dun blame Myles ... considering what Mrs Palmer and her 4 daughters are doing to him.
Great article Joel. Myles Palmer, in his fans' response to his article, only present emails that support his view. His senseless ranting about how great Wayne Rooney is and how inapt Henry is, really starts making an otherwise enjoyable site irritable.
Posted by: lohtw | 22/11/2006
So James, what's your beef with arseblogger?
C'mon lighten up. You've got to be as simple and boring as a bucket of rocks. You really sound like someone's mom's ugly older spinster sister.
Posted by: keats | 22/11/2006
Excellent post greenmile.
As far as I remember MP
supports Arsenal, but
says he is not a gooner.
Fair enough.
Are you all sheep?
Are we in some kind of
Stalinist dictaorship where
criticism of the beloved
exalted great party leader
is verboten?
TH14 is the best player in the
world, but the wrong choice for
captain.
MP is pretty good imo.
Posted by: Rodney Sharples | 23/11/2006
Myles is an egomaniac and that's never changed. He's in love with the sound of his own pronouncements. Who gives a shit? The only piece of the puzzle is this sudden hatred -- and that's what it is -- of TH. I'm wondering if the post suggesting Thierry dusted Myles' approach on a book might not be on target. I mean...Kevin Doyle? (Note to Myles: Could a "paper tiger" score a couple hundred goals by accident?)
Now, re Arseblogger: You either like the irreverence or you don't. If you're turned off by the language or the personal vignettes about his life, then read Arsenal.com. But Arseblogger, as somebody else put it, DOES write from his heart. I did a cut-and-paste just to save his memories of the 1-0 win at OT. That was me, that was us, all of us.
After I read Arseblogger's OT piece, I had to replay the YouTube clip of Daltry singing "Highbury Highs" once more because I felt it was my obligation to cry again. Gooners will understand that silliness. Myles would not.
I would rather be me than him.
Posted by: California Steve | 23/11/2006
http://arsenalgarrison.blogspot.com/
Check out that blog.
Posted by: stormid | 23/11/2006
well said mate-couldn't agree more, palmer is a c*nt!!!!!!
Posted by: jack | 23/11/2006
So myles palmer is talking out of his arse is he ? Lets face facts henry is a moody so and so and his effort more then his performances has been pissing off an awful lot of gooners(like me) this season. Why is it we feel that we cannot criticise our own ? If you want to read and believe that all in the garden is rosy then buy the official club programme or magazine instead of fanzines like the gooner and various unofficial websites. The fact is that he is without doubt the worst captain our club has ever had but that is wenger's fault for picking him not henrys fault. However it should be pointed out that since Vieira left we have not seen the same Henry 'cos he knows that as well as losing a buddy of his we also lost one of our only true warriors in the team. I do not care whether or not he regrets staying at thof but I do expect to see at the very least a 100% commited performance when he pulls on our famous jersey and if he doesn't put it in then i'd like to see wenger having the balls to take him off once in a while instead of always subbing rvp
Posted by: augie | 23/11/2006
augie:
I think you seem to have mis-understood the article. Yes, Henry is moody and yes he does not always give 100% but he is till a legend. Making him captain is one of the reasons he stayed and while he may not be the best captain in the world but I don't think he does that bad a job.
Criticizing Arsenal players is not something that I'm allergic too but I refuse to blame Henry every time we draw or lose. We as Arsenal fans are spoiled, Henry has single handedly saved us on a number of occasions and we have grown used to it. The squad has undergone a major overhaul and eventually I can see this team playing like the champions were are.
Keep the faith.
Posted by: blinkrebel | 23/11/2006
Suck my balls!
Posted by: Myles | 23/11/2006
Fake fans ! go to Brazil or Argentina and meet real fans who sings through out the match and do not have time to critisize their team but always support their team.And yes we are in some kind of stalinist dictatorship where criticism of the beloved exalted great leader is verboten if that leader is Henry/Arsenal.Stop the Henry is not a captain material myth and garry nevile is a captain material my arse.I would rather have the best player in the world captain my side than that bum.
Posted by: sting | 23/11/2006
Doesn't really matter what I, you, Myles or anyone else thinks about Arsenal and Henry does it? Lighten up, enjoy the ride, lead your own lives and make your own minds up.
Posted by: Shooy | 23/11/2006
If you think Myles' Arsenal articles are negative, you should read his England ones. I am not English, so I agree with most of what he says about the England team-they labour under delusions of a false sense of grandeur and are made to look good at their respective clubs by unselfish foreigners.
I actually like Myles, because I am a pessimistic, negative gooner who goes through child like tantrums and moodswings when we dont win. I dont want to read the 'positives' of another 1-1 or how we can use a defeat to create a seige mentality. I love Henry, but every gooner who knows his football must admit Thierry has been awful this season. I have never seen Titi so anonymous in so many of our games. normally, he does nothing for long stretches of a game but wins it with a phenomenal spurt of power, pace and skill. That has been sadly lacking this season. Also, I think Thierry feels now that Arsenal should be grateful towards him for snubbing Barca: his attitude points to this conclusion-and if he does feel that way, then its a disgrace. I am 100% certain we would have done as well as we have upto this point without Thierry. I'm not saying we will be better off without him, certainly not, but fans do notice things like him chatting to Reo Coker before the game then having a shit game, saying unhelpful things like he doesnt feel at home at the Grove and his punching the ground in frustration when a young player misses an opportunity (Adebayor, Van Persie, Cesc have all been the subject of Thierry, pathetically banging his fists on the ground. Lets not forget Reyes who I beleive was forced out).
I agree Myles can be abit annoying with his off the cuff articles, but they are usually very very good. I much prefer reading Myles' assessment of a game than a match report, because Myles delivers an insightful, cutting and thought provoking article. His book on Arsene, The Professor is excellent, and word is that Arsene keeps a copy of it in his office.
Posted by: Steve | 23/11/2006
I actually e-mailed myles (through his blog) a week before his article ripping Henry... i actually made 2 points to him, and he seemed to misunderstand me on one of them, specifically, that i think Henry has too much pressure on him as captain & talisman, and that he should be replaced by Toure in terms of captaincy..
I never got a personal response from Myles, which kinda cheesede me off, but i guess the bad Karma rubbed off on him. hehe..
Toure has a better view, a more group-minded attitude, and is a leader in action & words.. Henry is.. well, he's Henry, the 21st Century's 1st legend of football... he needs to be selfish, and ruthless, and a primadonna.. we need him to be so.. But henry takes any responsibility given to him, and did a fine job as captain last year, and i feel he is even prepared to sacrifice his golden boot to teach the young ones how to be fearless...Good on him but seriously, the guy could get pressured-out of Arsenal! Kolo for Captain, and let henry get back to what he does best, owning the last 3rd of the pitch..
by the way my second recommendation to myles was that Wenger sell EITHER RVP or TH14, as keeping those 2 on the same team (when we could keep one and get either GPB15m or GBP40m for either one respectively..).. RVP is the new Henry, you know..
Posted by: Joe | 23/11/2006
The fact is that more and more arsenal fans are questioning Henrys work rate. Just because he's brilliant, doesn't mean he shouldn't give 100% for his team mates and fans. The person he is, if he's not up for it, he couldnt give a shit. He only loves arsenal when it suits him and he's got a hairy back
Posted by: Blog Head | 23/11/2006
The fact is that more and more arsenal fans are questioning Henrys work rate. Just because he's brilliant, doesn't mean he shouldn't give 100% for his team mates and fans. The person he is, if he's not up for it, he couldnt give a shit. He only loves arsenal when it suits him and he's got a hairy back
Posted by: Blog Head | 23/11/2006
1, Myles Palmer is a cunt, who does not appreciate good football, let him fuck off and rename his site Manure News Review.
2.Th14 was asked to be captain by AW, so fucking stop whinging about him not being a leader and blame the manager.
3. If you think TH is not worth his place in the team then fuck off and support some shit team like the yids or Reading and really appreciate what shit strikers are about.
4. Arseblog is the best arsenal site on the web and if you don't agree with the rantings of a mad jackine gobshite then as someone said earlier go to the middle class arsenal .com.
Posted by: son of arseblog | 23/11/2006
Just had a look at arseblog.
Its boring.
Its shit.
Makes Myles Palmer look like Einstein.
Posted by: Rodney Sharples | 23/11/2006
Why is this a class issue? So, what if Myles is middle class, so what if many of the fans are prawn sandwich eaters, they are all Gooners. Are you more loyal because you are working class?
Myles has written some fine stuff over the years, and if like TH14 he has a few bad weeks..... so what.
As for Arseblogger, the man is class. The first site I go to. Entertaining, challenging and opinionated. If you do not like the language, then don't read him.
Posted by: Ironballs Mcginty | 23/11/2006
Myles Palmer has become an uber-depressing dude. Just like them fellas on ArsenalAmerica.
Arseblogger, however, is the first site I visit every morning. Yes, he's a drunk. Yes, he swears a lot. Yes, he hails the merits of getting stone drunk every night. His views are still funny, relevant, from the heart, and remind you not to take the whole football thing too seriously.
Myles Palmer, on the other hand, tries very hard to come off as an intellectual, and for a while he succeeded, but his recent articles have been insipid, annoying, and downright insulting. Even if the team and captain haven't been performing to the dizzy heights they previously attained, but that is no reason for some of the garbage he's spewed out recently. His post comparing Arsenal to REM and Moan U to the Rolling Stones made me freeze. I was shocked that he could actually say that shyte. That he tried to defend it by suddenly claiming not to be an Arsenal supporter, was even more shocking. He should rename his site: English Football Review so the rest of us Gooners can get our news elsewhere.
Like Arseblog. :D
Posted by: The Law | 23/11/2006
Wow. What an incredible article. And a completely needless one at that. Quite simply if you don't agree with Myles site then err... tough!
Myles has a right to voice his opinion, as you do. And that's the whole point - opinions. It would be boring if every site said the same thing, the same articles, the same match reports etc. If you don't agree with another persons point of view then fine, but there's no need to go and have a huge rant - you ultimately end up looking like a twisted fool.
I just can't see the point of this article - what do you want Myles to do? Stop posting on his website? But then you would be missing the point altogether - the internet is great for expressing yourself and what you think. By dismissing Myles and his work you are ultimately dismissing your own website. Everyone has a right to voice there opinion - if you don't agree with it then respond in an adult fashion with a good argument that you can back up.
I, for one, like reading Myles, as I like reading Arsebloggers posts etc... Sometimes these sites offer a different angle on situations and that surely can only be good thing.
Posted by: Scott | 24/11/2006
Wow. What an incredible article. And a completely needless one at that. Quite simply if you don't agree with Myles site then err... tough!
Myles has a right to voice his opinion, as you do. And that's the whole point - opinions. It would be boring if every site said the same thing, the same articles, the same match reports etc. If you don't agree with another persons point of view then fine, but there's no need to go and have a huge rant - you ultimately end up looking like a twisted fool.
I just can't see the point of this article - what do you want Myles to do? Stop posting on his website? But then you would be missing the point altogether - the internet is great for expressing yourself and what you think. By dismissing Myles and his work you are ultimately dismissing your own website. Everyone has a right to voice there opinion - if you don't agree with it then respond in an adult fashion with a good argument that you can back up.
I, for one, like reading Myles, as I like reading Arsebloggers posts etc... Sometimes these sites offer a different angle on situations and that surely can only be good thing.
Posted by: Scott | 24/11/2006
During the week I would consider myself middle class and I think arseblog is by far the best blog - definitely; expecially after a disappointing result. He's class and I would love to get boilk after a night chatting arsenal with him.
I quite enjoy Myles articles, but he does take himself to seriously and is quite a cunt. Though I do think he's a glory journalist.
Regarding Thierry... Henry loves the club and is a total drama queen. He loves to be seen to be upset with other players - he loves the drama. My only qualm is that he is too friendly. Im just glad fab and RVP love to rough up the opposition as these are our future matchwinners.
Posted by: asbo at weekends | 24/11/2006
"He's a girl in a man's game ". Its a discrace that a so called arsenal fan says that about the best player the premiership has ever seen.
Posted by: Torgny | 24/11/2006
Scott:
I don't think the author was trying to get Myles Palmer to stop writing. In fact, the author does say "I want the old Myles Palmer back," which pretty much is his point. This season Palmer has been almost a completely different person, but I still read his site because before he started licking Rooney's balls he was a great writer for a great blog. I think the author feels the same way, even if he doesnt exactly say that, but you have to admit, scott, that this year's articles (Kevin Doyle? R.E.M.?) have been not up to the level we expect of Palmer.
Posted by: blackpoolGunner | 24/11/2006
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